MSNBC contributor: Trump appeals to men with ‘retro, macho’ views, while Emhoff embodies 'supportive' men

MSNBC contributor Katty Kay said Vice President Kamala Harris' and former President Trump's campaigns were appealing to voters with "different" ideas about masculinity.

During a segment on "Morning Joe" on Friday, Kay teased her interview with second gentleman Doug Emhoff on her "The Rest Is Politics: US" podcast with Anthony Scaramucci. In the interview, Emhoff talked about giving up his career as a lawyer when Harris was tapped as President Biden's running mate in 2020.

"What would you say to young men who the Trump campaign is appealing to with a kind of slightly retro, macho view of what masculinity is?" Kay asked him. "Young men who might want to be in a position one day of supporting their spouse but are worried that it would diminish their own masculinity? Do you think now that you're in a position to reach those young men?"

"It's something I think about all the time," Emhoff responded. "For me, it just came very naturally. I think it's the era we kind of grew up in…For me it was very normal…and I think that's why Kamala and I really bonded."

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"I've also learned I can't lecture, I can't be a scold. I can't tell people what to do, especially in this area, I just have to say, 'Look, here's what I do, here's why I do it, here's why it's important to me.'...Women succeeding doesn't hurt men. It actually helps all of us…the economics prove it out."

Emhoff added that men can be strong and defend their families while also being supportive of their wives' careers.

"Both things can exist at the same time," he said.

"Morning Joe" co-host Mika Brzezinski reacted to the interview on Friday's MSNBC show, saying, "Boy, a contrast