Body language expert tells Dr. Phil he saw 'panic' on Walz's face during key debate moment

Body language expert Scott Rouse called out Gov. Tim Walz, D-Minn., for panicking and trying to avoid answering a question about his presence at Tiananmen Square during the vice presidential debate Tuesday.

One of the debate’s most surprising moments came when the CBS debate moderators confronted the governor about his claim that he had been in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen Square protests, when he actually traveled to Asia in August 1989, a few months later.

Dr. Phil, who previously asked Rouse to analyze body language in September’s presidential debate, asked him what to look for when reviewing this clip of Walz.

"I'm going to look for the things that tell us we know he wasn't there, and this, I'll put all my money on this, we're going to see fear, we're going to see panic, we're going to see shame, and the grief muscle as well," he said, adding, "Everything’s in this one."

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The host then showed CBS' Margaret Brennan confronting Walz about the Tiananmen claim, noting that reports indicate "you actually didn’t travel to Asia until August of that year, can you explain that discrepancy?"

Walz began his response by talking about growing up in rural Nebraska. Rouse said his body language spoke volumes, "As that head goes sideways, that's panic. Because he's not sure how he's going to defend this. He knows the question's coming, so he's got something ready, but it's not coming out the way he thought about it, so he's got inner dialogue going on, he's thinking about it. That’s why I see that head turn, those eyes get really, really wide. I know what that looks like, that’s what’s happening."

Rouse noted what he called the upside-down horseshoe shape of the